What Selina did was the biggest gift to Gary, because thats the only thing that would have broken the cycle for him, Hale now tells The Hollywood Reporter. I guess as long as you werent a good-looking woman. At turns heartbreaking and hilarious, the showdown expertly acted by Emmy winners Julia Louis-Dreyfuss and Tony Hale dramatically altered the power dynamic between the two characters, while also setting up a doozy of a mystery: What did Selina do on that fateful Labor Day, and how exactly didGary cover (or clean) it up? You mentioned that Trump was one of several reasons that you and Julia decided to wrap it up, but the show seemed energized by and turbocharged in mocking the current political climate from anti-vax to denying facts and the powers that be with the Meyer Fund and the Chinese election interference. We, I dont want to say padded, because my guess is he could end up with more. I think those are two old souls that would really enjoy each others company.. Ethan Hart gave a vague response: Im not sure, but I would love to see a Veep character cry like Carrie on Homeland. Sonia Murray, however, was very specific (Homeland spoiler alert! Thats the byproduct. Its so fun to work with somebody whos on the same page. Thats whats kind of fun. That scarily driven, win-at-all costs side of Selina is a hideous sight to behold, except when it comes to the brutal, satisfying comeuppance of Tom James (Hugh Laurie). She later explained to . It's an absolutely ruthless, soulless decision, and one that leaves you in the moment wondering how much she will come to regret that. I think he gets an odd kick out of watching the show. Their only daughter, Catherine Meyer, was born in 1994. Ideas? That would have been the running joke, that everybody else got scanned but shes the only actual competent one. He has no clue what is about to happen as they celebrate her nomination. But it feels pretty definitive. Oura Ring 3 vs. Anytime someone leaves the room, as far as Im concerned, those ghosts of Christmas past will be there. Was the attitude in the writers room this season one of The cruelty, ignorance and hypocrisy in this world needs an equal and opposite force more than ever, or was it Its our last season, so lets adopt a scorched Earth policy, or maybe a bit of both?I go for a little bit of both, and Ill throw a third thing in. We then tried to jam that into the last year, season 6, and then finally got it into season 7. I doubt we ever find out. I dont think she particularly wants to help the world. I think that would be important to her., ANALYZING THE ANSWERS: The top vote getter was Jonah, with Dan as the runner-up (I would need to work for someone who has a soul, Minh wrote of the latter). : r/Veep - Reddit; 2.Veep Post Mortem: Tony Hale Talks Gary and Selina's Epic - TVLine '", The scene, which illustrated the karmic punishment that had been meted out to her, served as an appropriate cautionary ending to a show steeped in corrosive cynicism and selfishness, according to Hale. We settle all family business. So its such an interesting scene because its so emotional, but it is emotional about sending her off to steel herself to do some really bad s. Is there any world where you do a spinoff or movie or continue this character in some way? And in some ways, perhaps even some of the postpartum depression was ultimately all really connected to Selina To me, the day they walked out of that convention, in the cab to the airport, she probably surprised Marjorie by laughing at something. Julia Louis-Dreyfus., MANDEL RESPONDS: Hearing that last answer, Mandel can only laugh: Have our standards for what a president is dropped so far in the last two years that this is what were saying is good about Selina Meyer? But looking at the big picture I find that [two-thirds number] fascinating, because I think shes a horrible person! Oh, thats interesting. "Like a dog returning to its vomit" is how Tony Hale recently and colorfully described it. Did you ever consider revealing exactly what happened on Labor Day, or is it one of those things that the answer will never be as satisfying as the speculation and your own imagination?I love that everyone has a theory. I dont remember whose idea that was, but It was a really nice distraction from the weight of what was going on. "For twentysomething years, he had lived in this fantasy and it shook him, and hopefully it woke him out of that to where he can begin living his life. Politically-Correct Reaction: "Veep" focused on the unwanted secrets of its staff in "East Wing." Selina and Gary's Labor Day-set secret may have taken center stage, but plot threads . While the titular role in Selena: The Series will be taken on by . "I need you to do something for me," she said, though he obliviously was more concerned with getting that chia seed out of her teeth. Louis-Dreyfus recalls that she had to bridle her own feelings to power through this poignant moment. And when you sow that your entire life, you reap sadness and isolation. Gary and Selina were intimate. When we learn that Richard Splett [Sam Richardson] becomes a historic two-term president, it feels like some reward and justice in this cold, cruel world. So the other nine, most of them were dramas. But I do think being skilled is different than being a good person. And maybe you see a flicker of that questioning, but it has to be batted away immediately because otherwise. Thats the interesting flaw of her. Origins of Labor Day. You can read that gesture as closure, but not full forgiveness. And its not easy for her, but its not as hard as it probably should be, either. We do spend a lot of time thinking about the fact that shes not 100 percent terrible at her job. "Nah," she said, reversing course. You can tie that into fake news, just the idea that people used to believe scientists, and doctors, and now they dont. And did he have any say on his old-age look?At some point or another, we found out that he had to approve everything. A cautionary tale for 2020, this season was simply darker and more brutal than ever. It was very satisfying for him. 2023 Oscars predictions: See who will win at the 95th Academy Awards. Kent is certainly hard to read, but again, if you were the right kind of person for a lot of these people, I think you could survive. So much for Labor Day loyalty. I think if you were a math person, Kent might actually take to you. Not only is what shes doing completely unethical, its the way shes doing it. Whose future outcome amused you the most? It wasnt for the finale; it was just to have been a jump ahead to the funeral, the idea being that they plan the funeral, something gets messed up, and now youre seeing the funeral, and youre seeing the things she wanted to not happen. As the bagman to the politician, Hales Gary Walsh is in her ear, primping her body and miming her every move always one heartbeat away from the woman he has long served. An incompetent boss [like Mike] is the greatest thing in the world then you can do what you like. [Laughs. Shell push it down because shes Selina, but I think in every moment of silence, that will be back in her life forever. He wasnt there to make some deal. And so we planted some seeds early on, about them getting drinks. We actually had another scene that we wrote and shot of Jonah in the EEOB that ultimately fell out, of seeing him as vice president in that office. Gary disposed of a body for her. Shell never allow herself to sit in those feelings, but she does feel them and then stuffs them down and turns it back on. Selina wasnt a robot. That they murdered somebody just too easy," Mandel says. Mike McLintock anchored coverage of Selina's funeral as her coffin entered the vagina-shaped crypt. This relationship is done.' He has no identity outside of Selina Meyer. Gary disposed of a body for her. She wasnt completely disconnected. I always will leave open the door to a great idea, because a great idea is a great idea. And there have even occasionally been people [who said], Why does she keep falling for it? And their relationship is also pretty screwed up. I think in some ways she found herself a sort of Dan-esque guy. That, to me, is the absolute saddest picture of her legacy. How Marvel went big with Ant-Man and the Wasp: Quantumania. She made eye contact with Gary, who looked at her for help as he was being led away, to which she simply looked away and continued the speech that she had swiped from the war hero. Viagra Trial Drama Men Up Coming to BBC From Russell T. 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I guess in some ways he has no choice. They sent us something when we won the Emmy. Oh, that sucks! Hell hath no fury like a perpetually under-appreciated, eternally abused and currently . 2023 Oscars predictions: See who will win at the 95th Academy Awards. This is not exactly an answer, but Id kind of love to see a sit-down between Ben and Saul. We once played with an idea that when you jumped to the future and Richard was president, and he might have asked her to be his vice president in the future sort of a little bit of a gray-haired, foreign policy expert to his younger, more novice politician. When watching Veep, Tony Hale can perennially be spotted over the shoulder of Julia Louis-Dreyfus starring character Selina Meyer. Selina Meyer and her staff try to take on the White House in this HBO sitcom. Because that moment she realized she wasnt going to have to change it to something else. I think any opportunity where Selina can be dealing with a real political issue, a real piece of politics, and at the same time, we can mix in a personal issue and it doesnt necessarily mean someoned be dying, but just anything smaller and personal thats a great combination for Veep. She wants him to pick up coffee or go get those shoes that she bought. Ben (Kevin Dunn) has been dead! Michael Ausiello / Not the way they talked about it, no., Its related to Selinas off-camera miscarriage, revealed in Season 1s Full Disclosure. Its hard to imagine it being something that they had already talked about. "Thank you and God bless America!". Maybe, just maybe obviously with all the people from the measles, maybe people will start to go, Well, wait a second, if they were right about vaccines, maybe they were right about the climate.. He legitimately was there to say goodbye. The whole team (reluctantly) returns to work for Jonahs campaign. "I wanted to say a word about sacrifice," she said. The gut-punch of a betrayal played out in the present-day ending of Sundays series finale, which then jumped ahead 24 years to former President Meyers funeral. He really did deeply, deeply care for her. Selina snaps out of that moment of sad solitude when the Israeli Prime Minister calls, and shes charmingly back to doing what she does best. So, when she first mentioned Gary, theres just this subtle thing on her face thats just so wonderful. And whose was the hardest to settle on?I most loved Richard being president, and I loved the three-state solution to the [Israeli-Palestinian] crisis, because even I as the writer have no idea what the third state is. Of all the people in the world you could pick, that decision to make Jonah vice president again is also part of the reason thats the title of this episode. The production of the convention was large in scale: it was filmed at a real arena in Los Angeles and they dropped a conventions-worth of balloons from the ceiling. It was probably the most heartwarming Youre my hatchet man line ever delivered.Weve played a lot with the notion of this horrific dad she had, over the past three years. Party leaders, looking for someone to beat the popular Laura Montez, turn to Jonah to run for President and throw their support behind him. this link is to an external site that may or may not meet accessibility guidelines. He doesnt see it. I will say, our character relationship and our friendship has genuinely been one of the biggest gifts of my career. "It was really emotional because it was the last episode and that was us kind of saying goodbye even though we had other stuff to shoot," he says. At the end of the day, just a small-time guy in a big office. Goddammit. The three-day weekend it falls on is called Labor Day Weekend.. Beginning in the late 19th century, as the trade union and labor movements grew . In the heat of the moment, there probably was a realization in her mind that hes more than just a lap dog. The holiday falls on the first Monday of . But I so respect his decision. Hes done outrageous things for her and nothing has yet snapped him out of it. I love it so much. Thats just a horrific job. I can't imagine the amount of work that that woman had done to her face. So for him to lay the lipstick on the casket? And I do think its a little hopeful. Gary has been abused, codependent and is just stuck in this obsessive cycle with Selina. ", Hale also had difficulty in keeping his emotions in check as he came to grips with the finality of the moment, both on- and off-camera. I think Gary would be offended if he knew what Tony Hale had in his bag: Empty water bottles and sticks of gum. You dont ever really get to see Gary angry, but Tony is channeling sort of a little bit of a disgust, if you will. For example, when the beautiful men were working for Jonah last year as interns, and he really sort of took to them. Despite becoming President, she is paying a price. It was really like, 'All right, this is it.'". It was a baby challenge to figure out where Dan should be. Welcome to the Quantum Realm. I kind of love that. How did you arrive at that outcome? The Central Labor Union held its second Labor Day holiday just a year later, on September 5, 1883. They are looking to Veep for a little bit of comedy, because he makes them so nervous, he says. I think he might view Selina with a little more empathy and compassion. Do you haveconfidence in new showrunner, [Curb Your Enthusiasm EP]David Mandel? When she says to him, I need you to do a favor for me. Going to jail was never in the cards of that favor in Garys mind. Im sad because I love my friends and when you spend eight years with people, you really become a family. "I remember I was outside the room watching the monitor, hearing her go 'Gary' and I couldn't move. When Kent is basically bellowing at Selina and kind of losing it a little bit, the camera finds Amy there. It is horrific. Its just so much joy to be able to talk about all that stuff any time we get together. Theseries finale betrayal was heartbreaking to watch. 1. Ill be vice president! almost reluctantly is one of my absolute favorite jokes, and I think in some weird way very true to the spirit of all seven seasons of the original show, a show about the vice presidency. In terms of looks, I will say that the idea of Dan really not aging is one of my all-time favorite ideas. You took over showrunning duties when Armando left after season 4 and kept up the Emmy-winning tradition. MANDEL RESPONDS: Sadly, I think theyre right, he says. Did you feel the weight of it while you were shooting it? And youre right, he did look rough. Garys got a lot of secrets. And then the past four years before she died, he was out. And as we started doing this season, we werent trying to be greedy, but I wrote down this idea that wed end up back in the Oval and Sue would be there. The joke I always say is, we would sit around trying to think of the stupidest, dumbest thing a president or his staff could do and they kind of outdo that on a daily basis.. Pam Grier reflects on her most iconic roles, from. So, I guess because of his simplicity, dare I say, I dont blame him quite as much as I blame her. I think you try to stay in Garys world. How are you doing with your feelings of Veep being over? So what is the worst thing that she could do that is unlike anything shes ever done? In the beginning of the season, you told me that Gary viewed her as a forever queen. And always the president in his eyes. And it's kind of also not fair." Because I believe he wanted to know. Amy (Anna Chlumsky) ended up with Ericsson (Diedrich Bader)! He wouldve been her type. But keep in mind, as far as Garys concerned, she shouldve been president years ago. And there's no coming back. So I think later in life he might have seen how ridiculous that was and let himself go a little bit and freed up. IMDb, the world's most popular and authoritative source for movie, TV and celebrity content. And then when she was writing the book with Mike, a little bit more about her father. And it's just like, of course she's not going to put herself in that. We should also point out that as shes kicking these people out of the office, were ending in a White House where, yes, Sue is outside, but in her inner circle, theres nobody there from the old show. It took that. She has to just let it happen and then turn a blind eye. And even though I looked at all the takes, Julia was the one who said, No, no, no take a look, I think I reacted when I hear the name. And I went back and I saw what she did, what she was talking about, so its intercut much more so that he says Maam, Gary and then youre back on her so it plays on her face, the realization moment. As for the other options: He owned a boat in the past and then had trouble getting rid of said boat, so I think he would be very happy in the boat world, although I dont think theres a lot of money in boat rental, he says. [Laughs] In Garys world, I always had this vision that he comes home at night and says into a recordereverything that is in the bag. Its the darkest moment for Selina and for the show. For this scene they just bring up the day in which something happened. Maybe that will be the next Veep spin well do a Christmas Carol thing with Selina and shell be visited by all the ghosts and the ghost of Christmas past will show her what shes done to Gary. She just thought that Amy wouldve liked the cut of his jib. Do you need me to fly back to New York and get a comb you left there? I mean, she doesn't dare go down that path of regret. Jess remembered that Selina cares for horses, an indication she does have a heart. She roots for Selina because she is unapologetically female in a mans world. Your legacy lives on in your children and that is a prime example, where her daughter is celebrating her demise and her death. Minus the now-deceased Ben (Kevin Dunn), the gang was all there, including two-term President Richard Splett (!, Sam Richardson) and ex-con Gary, who placed the Dubonnet lipstick that they had been saving for a special occasion on her casket. TVLINE | Burning question not specifically related to this episode: Whats in Garys bag? This was a really [important] scene, and we wanted to make sure it gelled, so we worked on it in for a while to find the flow of it. Hell hath no fury like a perpetually under-appreciated, eternally . Dan (Reid Scott) is selling real estate in Laguna Beach! What exactly happened on Labor Day? Thats Washington D.C. for you District of C***s!, MANDEL RESPONDS: Theyre not wrong, he says. Do you agree? Oh my God, he could end up as Its sort of like she had put it to bed and realizes now it could be even realer, and then realizing, Oh. And in some ways, thats what makes him her father. That guy has shown his dark side way too many times (Dans resignation) and has probably done some nasty stuff during his career, Viktor Cegledi reasoned. And please confirm that it was as vice president, not president.He was definitely impeached as vice president. How many takes did you get to nail Gary and Selinas final scenes, first their goodbye and then their final glance once the FBI comes? She could be a fierce fighter for womens rights and equality. Sydney Grullon spoke more generally: I dont think shes inherently awful, I think deep down she thinks what shes doing is good, at least what she was doing while in office. Prakram Bhushan, meanwhile, was incredibly specific: Selina is a good lover. It just was so stunning to hear the language in this giant ballroom at the Four Seasons. Yeah. We definitely liked the idea of what he went into was interesting. ENTERTAINMENT WEEKLY: Weve known who Selina was for seven seasons, but this season and this finale in particular took it to the next level and showcased just how ruthless and self-serving she is. I moved for the past seven years anytime she said that and the fact that I had to stay there was like, 'Aww, dammnit! She couldnt even face Gary to do it, thats how much of a coward she was. But In the age of reboots, we must ask: Is there any chance that Veep will come back in any form, down the road?At least for the moment, Ive said everything I have to say about these people and this world. Like she instinctively yelled out for Gary and then realizes it. By the late 19th century, the Industrial Revolution had made working life miserable for people around the world. It went on the wish list. He would rather be attacked and cussed at and abused than be distanced from her. "And you are a lifesaver, I couldn't have done it without you," she returned, surprising him with a hug. Read on to see how fans answered Mandels queries, as well as his reactions to the most popular responses (including the Labor Day theories he shot down). And what were the alts that didnt make it? Thats the wrong guy. Him seeing her just standing there, looking at whats happening, I knew, shes in on this. Right before she hit the stage in Charlotte to accept her party's nomination for president, she tried to prepare Gary for what was about to hit him, while he tried to prepare her for the spotlight with a special lipstick. 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