(I suppose it makes a point about blame not being distributed homogeneously, or that a certain group of people shouldnt be guilted just because they share the same colour of skin with another bunch of people you do think are guilty. But as someone who is damaged by slavery I have lived in racially mixed communities and I am happy to see Obama and Kamala pay up. Sure. One person who had a huge impact on Britain was Olaudah Equiano, an enslaved man who bought his freedom and wrote compellingly about his experiences. Britain should be proud of helping to stop (African to America) slavery, like the Republican Party and unlike the Democrats. Hes welcome to pursue his line of thought but he should bear in mind that tolerance is, by its nature, in the gift of the powerful. "We are on a journey in this country and other countries are on similar journeys to try and reconnect to parts of our history that had traditionally been edited out," adds Prof Olusoga. Prof Olusoga says statues, such as those of slave traders . True that unlike certain other examples of slavery, you werent likely to be killed as part of a religious sacrifice or as part of your owners funeral. Theres an argument about judging people by the standard of their times, though even in the 1500s moral and religious objections to the slave trade had been made and the rationale of crimes against humanity is that some things are so abhorrent they could never truly be legal no matter what moral code the perpetrators justified themselves with. This history of the black presence in . Dr Peter Olusoga is a Senior Lecturer in Psychology. Hey, we do not even have to go that far. By this logic, we ought to sue the African American community. Its entirely possible to think something was awful without feeling the slightest twinge of guilt or personal responsibility. Id say this to Mr Olusoga. He is the undisputed King of the Internet Pedants and Lord of the Unnecessary Snark. and while the responsible state still exists, Theres a fundamental weakness with all theories of universal law or justice, which is that across time and space, the human conception of what is right and just seems to be extremely varied and rarely (to modern Western eyes) pleasant.. Long after slavery ended in the British colonies, British people continued to lobby the American government to free their slaves. Nineteen eighty-four was a transformative year for David Olusoga. Do I feel like I had anything to do it? By David Dabydeen (Photo By Alamy) Nineteen eighty-four was a transformative year for David Olusoga. If black lives really mattered these people would be protesting the 500 shot dead so far by predominantly black men in Chicago this year. . Back in the heyday of blogging, perhaps ten years ago or so, there was a blogger calling him/herself The Heresiarch who enjoyed running against received opinions. June 16, 2020 - 20:29 BST Aisha Nozari. Some were sold to other African tribes and the rest kept as slaves. In 1986 I came across the book Staying Power by the British journalist Peter Fryer. If someone from Portugal or France wants to explain why their country has done a better job of getting the balance right, Im open to hearing it. And any reparations should be paid 50% by the African states for the areas which sold the slaves and pocketed the proceeds. It could not have happened at all unless African traders and kings had offered slaves to the Europeans. Get back to me in seven years, when youre ready to order. Long after he had published Corydon, his defence of pederasty. Rather the constitution banned the slave trade and so it become economically worth it to make sure slaves lived longer. Even discussing it gives your opponents arguments merit. Ive always agreed that the Africans should pay reparations to the rest of us for dumping all those people they wanted to get rid of on us. The details of difference are fairly minor. How would Nigeria treat a foreigner like him? David Olusoga, introduces his book Black and British, an exploration of the relationship between the British Isles and the people of Africa. And yes, grand scheme of things, forced choice between living in a central Asian city about to be captured by ticked-off Mongols and an African tribal group about to be captured by profit-hungry slavers then fine, I take the latter hands down. Its a shame Their demands should simply be refused. In 1787, they met in London and set up the Society for Effecting the Abolition of the Slave Trade. He was a prominent figure in the campaign to abolish slavery. Because it isnt about who you are, its about who your ancestors were. Prof David Olusoga has presented numerous documentaries including A House Through Time and Black and Black and British: A Forgotten History, Olaudah Equiano played a role in Britain's abolishment of slavery, Performer Giles Terera has written a play featuring Equiano, Prof Olusoga said when it was published, people did not believe the book was by an African as it was deemed so well written, Bernardine Evaristo (second left) has launched a series called Black Britain: Writing Back which features novels by black British authors that have been overlooked, Should black history be taught all year round? Such sources give his writing freshness, originality and compassion. Youre right, MBE. He was immersed in it. Prof Olusoga is not the only person who has been drawn to Equiano's story. Both of these need proof. (As the first person to mention the Sokoto Caliphate ahh, forget it.). You should know better. But werent they lucky compared to the other Germans in Stalingrad? As for the future, the University of Manchester professor says younger generations give him hope. It isnt going to happen anyway. Not sure how sick this makes me. Forbes magazine's extraordinarily arrogant contributor Tim Worstall Jeremy Corbyn. many African tribes kept slaves. Heroes of 2020 What Marcus Rashford's campaign for hungry children tells us about . It died out with the Romans leaving, and its non-legality repeatedly reaffirmed from the reign of the early Normans onwards.. It was an apt university to experiment with such developments, since Lord Scarman, who reported on the Brixton riots of 1981, was its chancellor. (and white people was pretty much the British). He is the author of the 2016 book Black and British: A Forgotten History, which was awarded both the Longman-History Today Trustees Award 2017 and the PEN Hessell-Tiltman Prize 2017. It died out with the Romans leaving, and its non-legality repeatedly reaffirmed from the reign of the early Normans onwards. Women, denied a meaningful role in politics, formed their own organisations, writing tracts, pamphlets and poems, gathering signatures for petitions and fundraising: At certain times and in certain places they were the engine room of the movement.. I know there are posters on here who see stepping into their opponents perspective as a dangerous and pointless endeavour that gives undue worth to a viewpoint they despise, but purely as a mental exercise theres usually something to be said for examining your opponents strongest argument instead of their weakest. Away from the creative arts, the Equiano Project aims to promote race equality and he was mentioned in Parliament during a debate on Black History and Cultural Diversity in the Curriculum. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vestmannaeyjar, Slavery in England definitely continued for a couple of generations after the Norman Conquest and Bristol was a major export centre, though there were attempts to ban the export trade in particular (https://www.historytoday.com/archive/normans-and-slavery-breaking-bonds has some interesting quotes from the time). Shouldnt Olusoga be writing in Ubangi bantu-language? To be honest, I was a bit sceptical about the Olympics coming to London, but the atmosphere across the capital was genuinely wonderful . Sugar was king: originally a luxury, it became one of the main sources of calories for the British poor. Sugar plantations were bad. My great grandfather fought to end slavery in a war. If Olusoga is looking for apologies or compensation for slavery, I am quite prepared to meet him, accept his apology, togehr with cash, cheque or even a postal order. "They do not want British history to be a catalogue of heroes and victories and glorious chapters," he says. "The phenomena of which he is iconic is one that we have written out, edited out of our nation. Thankfully the Woke have gifted us an all purpos3e response to this sort of crap. But those were in those long-lost days when democrats and republicans could talk to each other and agree to disagree while both leaving the conversation a little the wiser. Had a vault for the more inflammatory pieces. The strongest argument I can see for reparations is not that white people bear some kind of ancestral blame. As it happens, I dont believe in sins of the fathers passing down the generations. Purely speculatively, and as a matter of prediction rather than judging whats best, its hard to imagine large-scale reparations ever being adopted in Blighty because the ratio of losers to winners with the vote (presuming eg British Asians would be ineligible for compensation) is going to remain unfavourable and the cost of reparations across the relevant parts of the old Empire (if youre compensating British Jamaicans, presumably youre going to compensate all the Jamaicans in Jamaica once youve accepted the principle) would be considerable. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Andr_Gide, Less flippantly, Western countries are not of one mind when it comes to the age of consent sex with a 14 year-old is legal in some countries, criminal in others (yes yes, paedophilia versus ephebophilia etc, you got me). Make sure it doesnt happen in the least costly way. John Mandeville, whose travelogue (circa 1356) was one of the most widely translated books of the later Middle Ages, presented Africans as naked savages living amid heaps of gold to which they gave no value. In 1796, a bill was defeated by only four votes: a group of abolitionist MPs went to the opera and missed the vote. ", TV historian rejects 'nonsense' over keeping statues, What Black History Month is - and why it matters. Its an interesting exercise to consider, given we live within such a system, how or whether that contradiction can be settled. Oh man. Prof Olusoga, the presenter of the A House Through Time TV series, calls it an act of "historical salvage" to bring to the fore the black British figures who had been "lost in the archives, completely forgotten". The enslaved Africans had to wait another five years for their freedom and were not given a penny. Watching @worstall execute @richardjmurphy is like watching a very, very clever cat slowly killing at ataxic mouse. I learned the hard way. I still find arguing the toss, or watching others doing so, interesting partly because it shows how the viewpoints are divergent, how many arguments are self-interested, what social, cultural and economic forces are at work behind it all. I hadnt gotten far when she stopped me cold, pointing out that her best friend, a 15 year old girl knitting beside a window in her house, was machine gunned by an American P-51 pilot. Not to say it was nice. I am happy with Olusogo paying reparations to himself. MBE, do not entertain these people, not for one second. Davids all done. The BBC is not responsible for the content of external sites. I am of Ulster Scot heritage, who were originally John Knoxs Cumberland Presbyterians, VERY MUCH against slavery. In fact he is a biased political campaigner working to attack and do as much damage to Britain as he can. Video1894 shipwreck confirms tale of treacherous lifeboat, How 10% of Nigerian registered voters delivered victory, Sake brewers toast big rise in global sales, The Indian-American CEO who wants to be US president, Blackpink lead top stars back on the road in Asia, Exploring the rigging claims in Nigeria's elections, 'Wales is in England' gaffe sparks TikToker's trip. All in all your typical West African is far more likely to have ancestral connections to the slave trade than your typical Brit. not at all to disparage your ancestors GC. Between that night at the opera and 1807, nearly 800,000 Africans were enslaved. You dont have esoteric discussions with paedophiles any more than you would with serial killers. Ill disparage them. Dont know if I would rule it out entirely because the demographics are different but it might need a change in the voting dynamics. Maybe heard of Saint Balthild, seventh-century English lass sold into slavery, exported to the Continent, served in a palace and ended up marrying the Frankish King?). Those who grew rich on slavery and the slave trade were not neutral and no achievement or act of philanthropy justifies airbrushing their involvement from history.. "They look to history not just for inspiration and comfort, not just for heroes and for glorious chapters; they look for history expecting to find challenging stories, painful stories, dark truths, villains as well as heroes. arguments are pretty weak since relying on a doctrine of virtues of the fathers risks implicitly accepting sins of the fathers.. Sure. Slavery is bad or it isnt. When Olusoga recalled the experience before television cameras last year, he wept. The stars are out as Dr Pete Olusoga explores the psychology of stage and screen with the wonderful British actor (and Coronation Street veteran), Shobna Gulati. How does it benefit anyone to make an issue about particular events? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jxc5ENT8ajg, https://www.history.co.uk/shows/the-real-vikings/articles/eyewitness-to-the-vikings, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vestmannaeyjar, https://www.historytoday.com/archive/normans-and-slavery-breaking-bonds, https://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/domesday/world-of-domesday/order.htm, Apparently Essay Mills Must Be Made Illegal, Why Oxfam Can Go Boil Their Heads Over Vaccine Patents, The real point about climate change is how cheap the solution is, The excellent Tim Worstall- The Register, Tim Worstall is a darn good economist- Don Boudreaux, Tim Worstall, you pendant- Polly Toynbee, .more sensible than most right wing nutjob bloggersBob Piper. I suspect that whether records could prove it or not, its overwhelmingly likely to be true, especially since high-status individuals tend to make a bigger contribution to the gene pool. You may concede a point here, a point there. Anyway, I digress, we did have at some point, a gang of pedos turn up and put their case, reasonably, and were tolerated and conversed with. Thousands of petitions were presented to parliament. I could just as well feel something else entirely, and Im sceptical of all approaches to impose a supposedly universal, timeless or even just coherent, thats a challenge in itself ethical system. If we went down this route thered be goodness knows how much fun and games to be had with legal claims over the treatment of Irish by Cromwell, the clearing of the Highlands and so on, before you even get on to the globe-spanning imperial stuff. His book is a product of that childhood terror, and partly an exploration of his condition as a black Briton. First launched in London in 1987, it aims to highlight and celebrate what black people have achieved in Britain throughout history. So this race baiter can try his guilt trip on someone else. And, of course, being half white, he is only entitled to half the reparation payment. TV presenter David Olusoga has told the Edinburgh TV Festival his career had sometimes left him feeling "crushed, isolated," and "disempowered". Both groups today, especially the former, could reasonably claim historic persecution has reduced their present income and wealth. So how much have considered paedophilia? 7 years was the average working lifespan so it is said. I think it's an astonishing achievement.". This year, return to Neverland. It was the first of the slave narratives that I'd ever read and I found it astonishing.". Nineteen eighty-four affected him in another way: the publication of Peter Fryers groundbreaking Staying Power: The History of Black People in Britain introduced him to the scholarship needed to understand his position in Britain. if he wants to be an historian he should present a fair and realistic picture of what happened, Your email address will not be published. Now sixteen sounds about okay to me if youre going to stick a limit somewhere, but then being British I suppose Im more likely to think the system Im accustomed to is normal and reasonable. The Sokoto Caliphate probably had as many slaves and a lot fewer free men as the Old South. Looking at what happened in Haiti or Jamaica or chunks of Latin America, I dont find either well, could have been much worse or what do you expect, Early Modern West Europeans, how could they have known better? to be particularly convincing responses. But its still awful, even on a historical scale. The Russians do not have these problems because they are not ashamed. The UK, Norway, Benelux, Spain, Malta and Switzerland are, I believe, the only western European countries to set it at 16. Instead he has become a campaigner working to discredit Britain, the country that has educated him, promoted him and brought him fame and acceptance. And yet anti-black race riots broke out in 1948 in Liverpool and in 1958 in Nottingham and Londons Notting Hill. For almost 60 years, there was impasse. Over 1000 years in Britain. Get back to us when youve developed your historicalguiltometer. Cheap ass presentism. Even Bill Clinton had affinity for the USA. After all, adult males were all but worthless and demand for women might have been enough to drive the trade anyway. . And the third, fourth, fifth, and so on. Black and British: A Forgotten History P rofessor David Olusoga is reviewing a disorientating year from a familiar place: his white-painted study, the one with the guitars hanging from its walls. Its been banned for two centuries in Britain. Black history: Should it be part of the wider curriculum? Welsh slave-raids into England continued until early Norman times. David Olusoga meets Janice Haber and her family, the descendents of Jewish . The historian tells Michael Segalov about getting up early, reading George Orwell, taking his dog George for a walk, playing his guitar Your email address will not be published. You lost those two. We aint paying no goddam reparations & no-ones gonna make us. He has discovered new and exciting research materials in African archives, among them the Register of Liberated Africans in Sierra Leone, which list names, bodily details, ethnicity and origins, thus putting a human face on people otherwise treated as fodder and statistics. If you want to pay more tax, just write a cheque to HMRC and send it off. Olusoga is just getting even because he was attacked by the right when he was a teenager. Inflaming the reader has no purpose relative to slavery. Some other buyer would have taken them if they werent shipped out, and Western (or Arab) traders were just changing the ownership and location, the sins of the slave-raiders being theirs alone to bear. Latin America for instance. 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