Genesis 24:1-4. No-one is beyond reach. Yes, its a big deal and, yes, I will continue to teach and write about it. Silly me! Maybe references other than S. Michael Houdmann (I think Michael does a very nice job on his website but he and his wife started GotQuestions.org after he claims to have received a vision from God to help others and by your own admission, visions and feelings are not Godly direction.) Im sure you can find other examples on YouTube if you need them. (Oh my goodness~ thank you for using the term hermeneutics, eisegesis and exegesis! Lord, thank You that You are the Good Shepherd and You speak and we hear Your voice. Based on Saikowoods earlier post, you are not even familiar with the fact that Dr. Tony Evans is her father. In our modern We're called to not live by our feelings but by faith ( 2 Cor. read more, Scripture: Luke 9:1-10:20, Denomination: I thought most people read themselves in scripture. Its not like they bend over backwards to exclude men and cant help it if men stay, short of being bodily removed. We have just joined a new church and I was completely disheartened to find they were about to start two womens Bible studies both by Priscilla Shirer. No, Im afraid theres no such thing as a false teacher being an entryway into the faith any more than a bowl of cyanide can be a good appetizer before a healthy dinner. Priscilla Shirer is a wife and mom of three boys hailing from the Dallas area. The law in this case, being Scripture. You do not want to get rid of fear entirely. Neil knows much more about New Testament studies than I do, but I'm not sure how far forward we can go with the New Testament, given that most of its writers believed their world was about to pass away. Matthew 28:1-20, Denomination: In the first approximately 90 seconds of the video you can clearly see and hear men in the audience, and in her introductory remarks, Prisicilla indicates that she is preaching the Sunday service at this church. 2 Kings 5:1-15 The word astonished means to be struck with amazement. This is not a Church. Scripture: 2 Kings 5:1-15 Denomination: Baptist Going Beyond What Is Expected? Ive fixed it (as well as a few others that have expired). The Holy Spirit decided that what this church needed to combat that false teaching was a refresher course in Christology (the study of Christ- who He was, what He did, and why). Even if shes twisted. Choose What Is Right: A Study in Discernment ~ Lesson 1- Introduction, Going Beyond Scripture: Why It's Time to Say Good-Bye to Priscilla Shirer and Going Beyond Ministries, The Mailbag: Celebrity Christian Hot Takes (Driscoll, Graham, Groeschel, Lewis, Lucado, Piper, Vallotton), Leaving Lysa: Why You Shouldn't Be Following Lysa TerKeurst or Proverbs 31 Ministries, Doctrinally Sound Christian Men to Follow - 1, Bible Gateway- Fantastic concordance and other Bible tools, CARM- Christian Apologetics and Research Ministry, Christian Answers for the New Age (Marcia Montenegro). And yet you thank him as opposed to rebuking him. You just dont have enough time or energy to respond to every Tom, Dick and Mary.). Priscilla often uses poor hermeneutics when handling Gods word. True, and there are many problems with Beth Moore as well. The sweet missionary who taught us wide-eyed teenagers has since passed into Heaven. Paul is quite clearthat people who preach another gospel are accursed, or damned, and that we are not to partner with them. I think the articles in my Rock Your Role series will help you better understand Gods role for women in the church. But I dont recall her suggesting that Christians meditate or pursue contemplative prayer. I can always use more people praying for me. If you have Priscillas contact information and can get her to talk to me (Ive attempted to communicate with her several times and have been ignored), I will be delighted to discuss this issue and the entirety of this article with her. Its not simply a prohibition against women having a job as a pastor- theres more to it than that. Our ladies Bible study is just about to start a Priscilla Shirer study and I was doing some research on Priscilla and found your blog (whew! I totally disagree with you on this. It would stand to reason that all those that have never heard of Christ have not accepted Him and therefore, as Rom 1 details, they die in their sin. I havent done One in a Million yet) this is supposition on your part. Thanks for stopping by! 2. She sounds really nice and charismatic and thats about it but my spirit doesnt bear witness with her. If anyone has more info. But believers are to grow to maturity in their relationship with Christ and their knowlege of His word. Then please feel free to ask Id be glad to help you or look it up. With all that said, I do not say any of this out of ill intent, anger, or anything along those lines, I simply wanted to clarify, and say, that I agree with Michelles exegesis of (Matthew. I have to admit that I do not know the entire Biblical passage on this, Where does Priscilla get the idea that God is supposed to be speaking in these ways? The salvation of unreached people throughout history. if there is a WOMENS Conference, and books written for women, and Bible Studies written for women, all of them are geared to women, they cant really help men being in attendance of their own perogative, And when it was evening, his disciples came to him, saying, This is a desert place, and the time is now past; send the multitude away, that they may go into the villages, and buy themselves victuals. No-one is beyond compassion. It would definitely be interesting to hear his perspective. No where did she usurp authority etc. Our faith is rock solid if we have placed it in Godthe unchanging, perfect, eternal, sovereign One. Dear Michelle~ Thank you for taking the time to answer all my questions! There is only ONE requirement for salvation, and that is accepting that Jesus Christs blood took the place of our sin, recognize our sin and confess it, believe that Jesus is Gods son. Pastors dont read LifeWay studies or pay attention to the false teaching crowd, for the most part. My co-leader read your thoughts about Priscilla and I presented your views to the members of our study. They are busy caring for their churches. With regard to books, Bible studies, even blogs like mine, I completely agree with you! A. Well, that is why the rubber band was made, to be stretched. Could you point to me where Priscilla suggests that we empty our mind? Mark 8:25 Verse Concepts They had started out on the right foot with the biblical gospel, but false teachings were beginning to take hold. I KNOW this is your website and if I dont like it or cant relate to or dont understand what your position is on a particular topic~ I have the choice to stop reading. Romans 16:17-18, They said to you, In the last time there will be scoffers, following their own ungodly passions. It is these who cause divisions, worldly people, devoid of the Spirit. Did anything frighten you this morning? AT THE GOING BEYOND SIMULCAST, YOU CAN EXPECT: Bible teaching from best-selling author Priscilla Shirer To gain tools to study Scripture on your own To engage in worship led by Anthony Evans A powerful group prayer experience The opportunity to make an impact by partnering with a ministry Some of the points you bring up give me pause. Beth and Priscilla both disobey this biblical instruction. The Bible doesnt say anywhere that because only two people out of two million entered the Promised Land that only a handful of people will be able to experience (theres that word again) what weve learned on the pew.. Evangelical/Non-Denominational. Thats a rare find these days. It is teachers like Priscilla who want us to base our beliefs on our feelings and experiences, and that is not biblical. That's a possibility, but a better plan is that Scripture is Holy Spirit inspired. I hope youll find my response helpful anyway :0). Yes, Kenneth Hagin was one of the worst false teachers out there. Weve got to act on what the Bible says, not our own opinions. The last verse was a warning; this is an encouragement. One of two things happens: either Im ignored altogether, or one of her underlings gets back in touch with me to defend her. 1And Abraham was old, and well stricken in age: and the Lord had blessed Abraham in all things. Hi Osa- Not off the top of my head. Do you interpret scripture to mean women should not witness to all people; share the gospel message to all nations not just other women or children? Ive read her own account explaining this. No temptation has overtaken you except what is common to mankind. There is no way to be saved by putting your faith in a false christ. (This is where the video above ends. Do you have any other examples? Furthermore (since Priscilla looks to tangible experiences and anecdotal evidence as support for her ideas), both anecdotal church history and the experiences of Christians who are alive today prove this idea to be false. Assembly Of God. ), partnering with false teachers (thank you for noting this! Astonished Beyond Measure Like you, I also dont understand why believers behave the way they do- taking to task those who stand firmly upon the truth of Gods word instead of rebuking and rejecting false teachers such as Priscilla Shirer, when this is so clearly what Scripture says to do. Disclaimer: The specific links below are provided and endorsed as evidence pertaining to this article only. If that is you, let me save you the time and effort of writing another comment. In the videos Ive viewed, there are only women involved (with the exception of the camera guys and the lighting guys.) Now, brothers and sisters, I have applied these things to myself and Apollos for your benefit, so that you may learn from us the meaning of the saying, "Do not go beyond what is written." Then you will not be puffed up in being a follower of one of us over against the other. 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